Deuteronomy 22:28-29
';If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father 50 shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.';
Isn't this obvious evidence that morals change and evolve through time? This verse sounds like it was written by some judge of the high court in order to keep people obeying the government's laws.Why was marriage part of the punishment for some cases of rape?
Interesting how they manage to rationalise it as the rapist 'taking care of' the victim.Why was marriage part of the punishment for some cases of rape?
That passage is written with the assumption by the translators or author that a woman who was not pledged to be married would ';never'; willingly have sex with a man before she got married.
Here's how it's translated in the New King James version of the Bible.
Deuteronomy 22:28 ';If a man finds a young woman who is a virgin, who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are found out, 29 then the man who lay with her shall give to the young woman's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her; he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his days.
...and they are found out....Think about it.
those verses do not describe rape
Deuteronomy 22:28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
Deuteronomy 22:29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days
this is not rape they both did it because they wanted to.
they were having sex out side of marriage
Perhaps because a woman so bespoiled was not often married afterwards, and in the patriarchal societywomen rarely supported themselves.
It means that the guy HAS to care for her and the child for the rest of their lives. Simply put---he's going to be out some $$ for a long time.
This law was to protect the woman.
A woman found out not to be a virgin on her wedding night would be stoned to death.
That's what the Bible writers thought as a punishment for rapists... It sure beats 30 years in the slammer!
Christians still have the option in the New Testament era which is today to buy a suitable slave and do with him/her anything that their naughty whims desire with all of God's blessings like they did in Colonial America up to the 1860s!!! For many centuries the Christian Church have ruled countries and did as they pleased with their subjects! The only obstacle now is the secular government laws NOT THE BIBLE! If you had a slave you can use him/her even for the kinkiest gay, bizarre or straight sex imaginable! In spite of any Bible interpretation, there are plenty of arguments to justify ANY KIND OF KINKY SEX OR FETISH especially with slaves! Holy Moses is the Saint Protector of all the child abusers and perverts in the World! Believe it or not, pedophilia in all its extreme forms is CONDONED and totally unregulated in the Bible, Old and New Testaments nothing has changed because GOD NEVER CHANGES!!! If a man likes to have a little girl for a while for whatever pleasure HE DOESN’T NEED TO DATE HER! He can buy her as a slave from a set of some God fearing parents IN NEED OF MONEY! In fact, you don’t need to buy her you can trick her anyway you think she would take the bait! God the Holy Ghost sent the Archangel Saint Gabriel to sweet talk the very young and horny Virgin Mary into a pregnancy without any problem. She didn’t hesitate one moment to go along to be laid with a perfect stranger. She didn’t tell her fiancĂ© Saint Joseph until 6 months later and only because he noticed that she was getting a big belly! Secular laws, NOT THE LAWS OF GOD protect the underage today!
Titus 2:9 (NIV) (Saint Paul commands!) Teach slaves* (*including young little boy and girl slaves) to be subject to their masters in everything* (*EVERYTHING without restrictions no matter how kinky!), to try to please them, not to talk back to them,* (*Hallelujah! Praise the LORD! Sweet Jesus! Amen? --I’m sarcastic here just to make a point!)
Exodus 21:20-21 NIV “If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod* (*like in a prolonged BDSM session!) and the slave dies as a DIRECT RESULT, he must be punished* (*but how? will the master get a slap on the wrist? NOWHERE in the whole crappy BIBLE says how this master ought to be punished, although it says PLENTY on how to handle the slaves!), but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is “HIS PROPERTY”* (*In the Infallible KJV it says, “his money”… To God a slave is not even a human being, but money!)
So you can keep beating your male or female slave to a pulp every third day or so and as long as he/she recovers you are a HOLY and RIGHTEOUS person before this Loving Bible God! GOD’S HOLY LAW IS SO GOOD! The whole Bible is decisively pro-slavery of the kinkiest sort! In the New Testament, escaping slaves were ALWAYS TOLD TO RETURN to their masters and to go free only if allowed! The whole book of PHILEMON in the New Testament is dedicated to teach Christian escaped slaves anywhere in the world to return to their masters!
1 Peter 2:18 (NIV) (Saint Peter, the First Pope holding the keys of Heaven and Hell commands…) Slaves* (*including young little girl slaves!), submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, NOT ONLY to those who are good and considerate, BUT ALSO TO THOSE WHO ARE HARSH.* (*Hey…! How kinky can the Christians get even today? As kinky as the clergy and the militant Christians wish and the secular arm of the law won’t catch them! Smart preachers do it in their closets! Christians have no moral standards to draw from the Bible! They borrow from our real secular world that Christians are trained to hate!)
Exodus 21:7-8 (NIV) ';If a MAN SELLS* (*for whatever reason like for being short of money) his DAUGHTER* (*NOT HIS SON, but his daughter! Can you sense the sexual innuendos of the Bible writers?) as a SLAVE, SHE IS NOT TO GO FREE as male slaves do. IF SHE DOES NOT PLEASE THE MASTER who has selected her for himself* (*by then she must be sexually worn out, spiritually speaking of course!), he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her.
Can you imagine the SLAVE GIRL’S fate if her God fearing daddy doesn't want her back and her master is a sadistic sexual pervert? Another more subtle way of getting a GIRL for a wife in the Bible is to be a predator at a PURITY BALL watching the virgin girls dancing and grab for yourself anyone that you wish to have for a wife… The Law of God allows MEN this original pleasure! No silly dating necessary! That's about how the Blessed Virgin Mary got pregnant, too! She was talked into it and she agreed on the spot! She was not kidnapped and raped!
Judges 21:23 * So that is what the Benjamites did. While the girls were dancing, each man caught one and carried her off to be his wife… (Praise the LORD! Sweet Jesus!)
In the Bible days women had no noticeable rights and were worth much less than men! As long as the master follows the Bible injunctions he is always a Holy man of God, like RIGHTEOUS LOT who shortly after his wife’s death was getting drunk and was having sex with his young virgin daughters until he got them pregnant, or even the Levite Priest of God in Judges 19-21 who pleasured himself carving up his gang raped concubine in 12 pieces. He sent the chunks of her body by messengers all over Israel to get the Benjamin clan exterminated in a Holy Vendetta! (Amen?) Can you imagine the heads of the other 11 tribes in Israel getting a bloody body part of a Priest’s horny lover in the mail with a message saying that it was the Benjamites who raped and killed her when this priest actually delivered her for the unrestricted pleasure of the Jewish Sodomites!? Can you still believe that this low ranking PRIEST OF GOD got ALL the tribes in Israel to agree with him on the spot to exterminate the tribe of Benjamin without any question asked!? Anything like this doesn’t happen even among the most barbarian people anywhere in the world, but you can enjoy reading all about it in “God’s Holy Word the Bible!” The Bible writers were very smart to insist that they “wrote as they were led by the Spirit of God”! They didn’t know what they were writing including the Adam and Eve, Moses and all the stories until they read it and were amazed (2 Pet 1:21)! Any bit of gullibility (or rather faith) on your part will do the miracle of believing it!
Luke 16:17 (NIV) (Jesus said) It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law* (*the Old Testament Bible).
According to God the Son Jesus Christ the Law of God in the OT is valid even today! When some Colonies in America were ruled by the Christians a lot of innocent “witches” were hung from tree branches with a rope tied around their neck! The first criminals to be sentenced to death here in Christian America were witches (Check “Salem Witches” in Wikipeadia!) Hundreds more were in jail on suspicion of being witches and warlocks! I am not taking ANYTHING out of any Bible or historical CONTEXT! Today Christians need to comply with our secular morality, not the way around! In due course, the validity and morality of same sex marriages everywhere will be determined by the secular law, too! The Christian clergy will still have an opportunity to make money regulating the morality of same sex couples. There is plenty of flip-flopping room in the Bible to accommodate any lifestyle and Christianity is here to stay for a long while because some humans still need a religious crutch to function in this world. Here in America COMMON SENSE IS PREVAILING OVER CHURCH DOGMAS and political ideologies! Everything changes with time thanks to liberal non religious governments!
There is hardly a page in the Bible that is not full of some compromising issues that theologians need to reinterpret so Christianity today can still promote a reasonable “God”! God still has a long way to go… He missed mentioning that someday slavery will be outlawed by the United Nations in this World that he loves so much!? There is not a whisper of hope in the Bible that slaves will be freed at all, but all the opposite! It says that slavery will continue on to the end of the world and that nobody will be able to buy or sell unless it is branded with a “666” stamp! The Bible writers never imagined in their primitive mind any form of democracy with liberty and freedom for all! Christianity is the biggest sham in history!
I have no idea. Maybe it's just the idea that some guys back then didn't want to touch a girl that had been raped.
In reference to the law about rape and marriage, the rapist robbed her of her virginity, and of the evidence of her virginity.
He would then be responsible to take care of her for the rest of her life. He could never divorce her, whereas others could get divorces.
His one act of stupidity brought him a lifelong responsibility. And she would be taken care of, for the rest of her life.
In that society, we people aren't having premarital sex all over the place, so the evidence of virginity is a big and very important thing. Today, when we are all told to be ungodly and have sex all over the place, then the evidence of virginity sadly means nothing. Which is why you don't understand why they had this law.
By the way, the law was only for Israel, and only during that time. Even before Deuteronomy, the Lord had similar statues to govern society. Now today, nobody is under the law today. We are under grace :)
Jesus loves you so very much! :D
The truth about Jesus is that the only way to be saved and to get into heaven and avoid being sent to eternal hell, is by believing in faith alone that Jesus, who is God, died for our sins on the cross as FULL PAYMENT for all our sins, and then Jesus rose from the dead (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). Believe this and you will be in heaven, no matter what!
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